CNN aired an interview between Piers Morgan and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the President of Iran on September 24, 2012. Mr. Morgan asked the President about freedom for gay people. Ahmadinejad decided to inject children into his discussion.
Mr. Morgan asked the President, “Shouldn't freedom and individuality and all those things extend to people who just happen to be gay? They were born gay. They weren't made gay. Wouldn't it be great for the President of Iran to say, 'You know what? Everyone is entitled to be whatever sexuality they are born with.' That would be a great symbol of freedom.”
Mr. Ahmadinejad replied by asking “Do you really believe someone is born homosexual?” When Mr. Morgan said that he did, absolutely, the Iranian president said “Let me ask you this: do you believe anyone has given birth through homosexuality? Homosexuality ceases procreation.” He went to ask “Who has said that if you are doing something ugly. they are denying your freedom? Who has said that?”
Not to be put off, Mr. Morgan noted that the president has two sons and a daughter: “What would you do if one of them was gay?”
The president’s reply was this: “The proper education must be given. The education system must be revamped. The political system must be revamped. And these must also be reformed and revamped along the way. But if you -- if a group -- recognizes an ugly behavior or deed as legitimate, you must not expect other countries or groups to give it the same recognition?”
I mention this discussion here because of the way in which children play a role. In Mr. Ahmadinejad’s mind, the sterility of two men and two women functions as a strong reason to object to the “ugly behavior” of homosexuality. In 2007, students at Columbia University laughed at the president when he told them that “In Iran, we don't have homosexuals, like in your country.”
While it may be true that there is not in Iran the public pair-bonding of two men or two women that is almost commonplace in the United States, there are men and women who have and express their homosexuality. Many of them will be in opposite-sex relationships and have children. Homosexual men and women do have children, even if many of them in opposite-sex relationships. And the American Society for Reproductive Medicine now counsels its membership to offer reproductive treatments to all parties, independent of their sexual orientation.
Homosexual acts are sterile in themselves, as are many sexual acts between men and women who are infertile and as are sexual acts that, for one reason or another, are situationally infertile. Homosexuality is not, therefore, alone in ‘ceasing procreation.’ For that reason, the infertility of same-sex couples is no reason to throw up obstacles to social freedom.
For the interview, see: http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/24/world/meast/iran-ahmadinejad-interview/index.html